Muslims Challenge UK Sharia Courts

by Drima on December 20, 2008

Good. They have my support, and I hope they succeed in demolishing this travesty.

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1 Andrew Brehm 12.20.08 at 2:17 pm

(Applauds her.)

I find it amazing that Britain, of all countries, suddenly allows a second law within its borders.

What’s so difficult about the very simple concept of ONE monarch, ONE state, and ONE law?

And Mrs Khan also makes an interesting point about who the Sharia advocates are. They are not your standard Muslims. They are Wahabi heretics and Muslim Botherhood terror supporters. Does Britain really want her Muslim communities run by the likes of Saudis and Hamas?

2 Howie 12.20.08 at 7:20 pm

Frankly…I have finally had it with the Muslims…This morning I was walking down University Ave. in Berekely…there was a place that said “Halal Chicken, Beef and Vegetarian..’ I thought…cool…may give this a try…

Got up closer…sign also said “breakfast speacial..Ham, sausage and eggs”…

OK you guys…that is the last straw.

3 Andrew Brehm 12.20.08 at 11:57 pm

“OK you guys…that is the last straw.”

I was just talking to the Iraqi shop keeper next door. I wanted to know if his shop would be open on Christmas.

He told me that he is always open: Christmas, Eid, any holiday. He’s a Muslim, he said and laughed.

4 Mangosteen 12.22.08 at 5:58 pm

Howie– I suggest a dose of laughing gas+Xanax+Prozac.

5 Howie 12.22.08 at 6:04 pm

Mangosteen…

He sells all that stuff in the alley behind the resturant.

6 Andrew Brehm 12.22.08 at 6:10 pm

Happy Hanukkah everyone!

7 Don Cox 12.23.08 at 11:25 am

“suddenly allows a second law within its borders.”

There have been Jewish courts in the UK for a long time, to settle points of Jewish law. These set a precedent, unfortunately.

There are also various arbitration courts for Trades Uniobns and employers.

You can rely on the Wahhabis to make use of any possible way in, like rats trying to get into a storeroom.

8 Andrew Brehm 12.23.08 at 12:10 pm

Don,

Yes, but aren’t all of these courts supposed to act within the framework of British law?

9 Imus 12.24.08 at 1:39 am

“…They are not your standard Muslims. They are Wahabi heretics and Muslim Botherhood terror supporters. Does Britain really want her Muslim communities run by the likes of Saudis and Hamas?..”

What does standard muslims mean? Standard!! does it comes in many flavors?? I am not sure they are differences in dogma. being a conservative (heretic) or secular does not mean a thing to a muslim. Sharia law cannot be distinguished by being salafi, wahabi and the least being non-fundamentalist. What is “moderate” sharia law in the first place?? It does not make sense. If Andrew can find an example of such thing, can he please name it, of give an example or tell us where does it exists…

As for the the Jewish courts in Britain or France. They operate independently from the courts of secular laws. They do not bring major attention or controversy because they do not discriminate against wpmen or restrict freedom of people or subdue them. One has to remember that these Jewish courts apply ONLY to the closed ultra-orthodox communities. The secular or reform jewish British are not concerned witn them. The children of the ultra-orthox do not go to public school or intermingle with the outside at allno earn a living out of their own communities.

Unlike the muslims who try to have it both ways. Sending their children with scrafs and attires to public schools and send them to earn money in the secular society and business world then try define and regulate their behaviors with the Sharia laws. That’s crazy. It is too dogmatic and franckly subversive tp the whole notion of citizenship. That’s the reason why I think they should abolish these “whatever political agenda” sharia courts have.

10 Andrew Brehm 12.24.08 at 12:06 pm

Yes, Islam does come in many flavours. In contrast to what Wahabis want people to think, their interpretation (i.e. re-inventing) of the religion is not more Islamic, but rather simply weird and different. The same applies to the Khomeini variety of Shiism.

Islamic states have existed in many forms, and they were not at all like Saudi Arabia. Muhammed’s own Islamic state in Medina didn’t discriminate against Jews, for example. The Caliphs did not forbid Christianity. Saudi Arabia, the Wahabi state, does not resemble those original Islamic states at all. So obviously they had a different idea of Sharia.

(Reform Judaism does have its own court system in Britain.)

11 Imus 12.25.08 at 11:39 am

If “flavors” to you mean tolerance, then it is Ok. But to suggets there are many creeds, dogmas, schools and denominations, that’s you own call.

Mohamed did not discriminate against Jews… Now this is either a joke or joke…
I am not sure which sources you are reading, but there is no debate on this. God in the Koran wages war against Jews. Historical documents (islamic ones) describe in details the extermination, explusion and enslavement of women of many tribes of Arabia, the famous one of Benu Quaynuqa by order or the hands of Mohamed himself. Caliph Omar’s dhimmi status for non-muslims can also point to the evidene of later discrimanitory practices of muslims.

Please, do not make such statement that Mohamed did not discriminate… It is just plain wrong and false… If however you are simply using it to prove your unfavorable ideas of sharia laws, surely they ar many other claims you can make to persuade people about it.

12 Sudanese Nubian 02.24.09 at 7:22 am

Imus….ahh Imus, thy name is ignorance. Prpht. Mohamed PBUH didn’t discriminate for he married a Jew and dhimmis ??? wow! I learn more about this stuff from you guys than here in the Muslim “bible belt” here in Mideast. Non-muslims were offered the same protection and they only had to pay tax, but so did Muslims in forms of alms or other. Best of luck and gaze through a telescope not a microscope, and remember to clean the lense of all prejudice…

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