The “he”, I’m talking about is some arrogant Arab weirdo, I had the displeasure of meeting recently through a guy I know here. Now this weirdo is one of those guys who made up some crazy story to get asylum in America to stay and enjoy the good economic benefits of being there. This shouldn’t come as shocking. I know a number of true stories about people who lied just to get asylum in America for the same reasons. However this guy who ended up becoming an American citizen about 10 years ago is very different. While conversing about random stuff, we started talking about politics and the question of who he voted for during the previous elections popped up. His answer? He voted for Bush the first time because of his stance regarding moral issues. After that 9/11 happened and America invaded Iraq. Things changed. Kerry wanted out but Bush wanted to stay the course and staying the course meant American troops staying in Iraq longer which in turn meant the pile of dead American soldiers getting higher which ultimately resulted and apparently continues to result in a bigger smile on his face!! Lovely right? Ungrateful hypocrite retards like this guy truly amaze me. Americans, you seriously need to start implementing lie detector tests during asylum interviews. I’m not joking!
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While I am not an American, this idiot is making me angry nontheless. Very angry.
On the other hand, with the alternative being John Kerry, we can safely say that he did the right thing for the wrong reasons.
Very wrong reasons. Very, very wrong reasons. That guy isn’t just a hypocrite, he’s one nasty piece of work.
I voted for Kerry, albeit while holding my nose. It was the most depressing election I can remember in 40+ years. A choice between lame and lamer. I figured Kerry was the lesser evil.
Wish I could manage to feel outrage about this guy you mention but frankly, with all the homegrown wingnuts we have here I can barely manage to care. Feel the apathy.
Not Your Mama, are you serious?!!
We had to give a homosexual Mexican asylum because he would have had a rough time back in macho Mexico. I’m sure he would have had a much rougher time in any Sharia run country, therefore we now have a legal precedent that says anyone from those countries must be granted asylum if he says he’s gay. The only consolation I can see is that most die hard jihadists would never admit to such a thing.
Rancher, after his failed rebellion, the former Mufti of Jerusalem made his way to Nazi Germany dressed as a devout Muslim woman.
While the rank-and-file fanatics won’t resort to this, those who lead them will.
I know a “gay” Sudanese who got asylum in Holland
Good point Roman.
Not Your Mama, are you serious?!!
About my near total apathy or about voting while holding my nose? Yes, to both.
Things are not “all good”, at least according to a large percentage of the population in the good ol’ US of A. A lot of us are just tired. Some of us are seriously considering emigration.
Someone like the man you mention can obtain legal residency and citizenship. A Mexican who just wants to work and escape poverty cannot even get in the door legally.
A Christian zealot can call everyone else foul names and openly campaign for instituting their own Christian version of Sharia law but no one can speak against them without being called every name in the book, being harassed and threatened.
So how exactly does this make us so very different from the countries we denounce so loudly in the middle east?
For the most part we aren’t blowing each other up in the streets…yet. If we do not pull our collective heads out of our collective rumps soon…you do the math.
Not Your Mama,
Where are americans considering emigrating to? Canada? The war in Iraq aside, ( and I know that is a large thing to put aside) That last six years have been rather centrist in domestic policy. Taxes have gone down, but there is a whole new spending program on prescription drugs for seniors. There has been a revamp of the bankruptcy laws that favors creditors beyond what the earlier law did, but it is still nothing like what bankruptcy laws were originally like, (before bankruptcy was an action that only creditors could take against debtors, debtors could not take it on their own). Then there is the patriot act. Not many people really know what that does, but probably its most expansive power is to look at the library books people check out without warrant. I don’t really see the Christian version of Sharia that you do. I was wondering what you feel that exactly was?
I don’t really see the Christian version of Sharia that you do
It hasn’t succeeded, yet, but the push is there. The continuous attack on Roe -v- Wade, the push for an amendment defining marriage based on religious doctrine, the assault on our public schools to teach creationism and ban the teaching of evolution, Let’s not forget the outright and very public discrimnination against anyone not of the Christian faith or even anyone perceived as “not Christian enough”. Bush himself publicly stated he did not view Atheists as United States citizens.
How far are we from legislating on the basis of religious beliefs if our own president can make a statement like this with impunity.
One of my children is living in the southeast, he has to lie and pretend to be a “Christian believer” to stay employed. To me, that is religion gone out of control.
The (fundamentalist) Christians are making much noise about their rights but the truth is: no one is taking or even trying to take away any of their rights to live and believe as they choose. They are attempting to take away the rights of everyone else and turn their beliefs into law.
And yes, Canada is on the list but they have their own Bush-baby in office (Harper) so looking at NZ and Scotland too.
Um, this Bush didn’t, Not Your Mama. You’re thinking of a response Bush senior gave at a press conference in 1987, I believe, back when he was vice-President.
Hype, ma’am, and twenty year old hype at that. I think you’re extremely overreacting.
Then several million other Americans are “overreacting” as well.
So are you trying to say that there is no movement to legally define marriage based on religious beliefs? No schools have come under fire from the Christian right for teaching evolution? There isn’t a current controversy from the religious right regarding the HPV vaccine based on religious beliefs?
You must be living under a rock.
Oh, and I suppose Ellison wanting to use the Quran was just hunky-dory too?
Ma’am, I’ve read about this whole evolution/creationism mess. It would have been easier if your school teachers knew how to properly define and teach scientific theory and thought, in a way that would have made clear that it doesn’t attack religious beliefs. And it would have been easier if the likes of Pat Robertson kept their mouths shut.
And the whole Ellison business had much more to do with your xenophobia than with your Christians. You always had groups that feared change.
Not your Mama:
What do you mean by “outright and very public discrimination” against non-beleivers? As an atheist American, I have suffered no such thing. Your experience might be different of course, but you remind me of the whiney Christians who complain that saying “Happy Holidays” instead of “Merry Christmas” constitutes an attack upon their faith.
Religiuos zealots, like everyone else, have a right to advocate for their point of view and try to influence public policy. Anyone who disagreees with them has the right to do likewise. In a democracy, both sides of an given issue usually have to compromise. The results will not please everyone, but they will be accepted as legitimate, because everyone has had their say.
Issues like gay marriage and abortion have become so contentious in large part becuase activists on both sides use the courts to bypass the democratic process. I happen to support gay marriage and (with some limitations) legal abortion, but these issues should not be decided by judicial fiat. Let the people decide at the state and local levels. If the people are wrong, history shows that they will eventually recognize their error and act accordingly.
Have to agree with Amanda. As an atheist, I have suffered no discrimination at all, even when visiting some Baptist Texans, who were more curious than hostile to my stance.
And I’m all pro-abortion and for gay marriage, yet I still voted for Bush in 2004, simply because he was better suited to handle the job in Iraq than anyone the Democrats could have come up with.
And the whole Ellison business had much more to do with your xenophobia than with your Christians.
The fact that Ellison is US born and raised tends to negate that theory. If you’d listened to the news you’d know religion had everything to do with it. It was no one but the “Christian right” who were sounding the alarm.
Happy for the two who claim to have never experienced discrimination. Not sure what America they live in but it certainly is not the same one as I do. Yes, I have personally experienced being questioned about my religious beliefs when interviewing for a job with a state agency (I declined to answer).
I could care less if people say Merry Christmas or even “God Bless”, whatever makes them happy. I DO very much object to the continuous interference with public education and politics. Yes, they do have a right to their views. They do NOT have a right to interfere in politics or campaign while enjoying tax-free status as a religious organization. We have that little clause about “separation of church and state”, did you forget that one?
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