From Iman’s:
I have not been able to look at Saddam’s capture and trial pictures for more than a few seconds… once a great, charismatic leader has been reduced to such degrading state all in the name of justice and freedom on the hands of a foreign occupying force…the truth is that’s far from it …whether he deserves all that’s happened to him is not the point. Saddam’s overall trial does not have anything remotely connected to justice and freedom…His soul will soon transcend to a place where the real trial, with the fairest judge will take place…till mine follows, this is the image of Saddam that I’d like to carry with me, always:
Thanks Iman. I think I’m gonna puke! Rihab is so right:
I’ve been reading a few posts in a few Arab blogs, and the phrase “great leader” keeps popping up after Saddam… and it is starting to really piss me off.
It is honestly, beyond me how we are capable of devaluing each others blood. If an American or Israeli kills an Arab all hell breaks loose, but if it’s an Arab killing another Arab… oh well, no real biggie, who gives a crap?? we’re all brothers after all! I mean surely, it’s far more disgusting when a stranger kills you as opposed to your brother killing you, right??!!! Wrong! It’s far more disgusting when your brother invades your country, it is far more disgusting when a president sprays his own people with chemicals, as though they were a swarm of flies!! How on earth do people’s minds work?????
From Fluent-Sudani:
May the Lord have mercy on his soul. Allahuma askinhoo faseeh jinanik. It’s a darn shame a man dies protecting his land from occupants. What justice has it done? one-in-one-out justice prevailence. You have Abu Gharib prison assaulters wandering around, no punishment, many other Iraqi teen girls molestors free. Oh, they are not Muslim. “Muslim bad guys are treated humanely not tortured in Gitmo” [sacrasm].
As any Muslim, hanging Saddam in Eid day brings a disrespectful message to the Muslim world, suffering in a religious holiday. Underlying Bush’s announcement of CRUSADE when he first set foot in Iraq. Romans used this filthy method on Christians, now who is repeating the same stab! I am in no position to judge a man who was bravely standing out against invasion, that’s a divine role. Look at what have become of Iraq now, a well-advanced land into rubbles of worthless massacres from angered acadameic-failure troops and daily secterian violence- John Kerry hadn’t lied when he said students get stuck in Iraq when they do bad in school.
Let us classify marytr “Shaheed” in Islam.. according to an authentic hadith, any person who gets killed by occupants of their homes, burnt, drowned. To the last minute, Saddam didn’t fear death and revert into a traitor against his nation.
So when the retarded pigs who were involved in Abu Ghraib roam around freely or get a slap on the wrist, you complain (which is fine) but when Saddam dies protecting his land against occupants, you suddenly sympathize with him and resort to calling him a Shaheed even though the filthy things he committed were so much “lovelier” than what happened in Abu Ghraib. Well surely, it’s all okay right? The moment Saddam stood up to America, he automatically transformed into a brave person and his past horrific crimes became overshadowed and almost hidden by his heroic efforts. No? Oh ya and regarding the the timing of the execution, apparently the US tried to delay it but the Shia dominated Iraqi government refused. I guess you’ll probably dismiss the article as a “lie”. Well maybe it is but I have little difficulty believing it now especially after watching the full video of Saddam’s execution and realizing that Sadr’s supporters were there cheering happily in the spirit of revenge. Ah, you know what… never mind. Saddam was a brave man and he’s now a Shaheed. Ya, that’s why he was hiding in a hole in the ground right?
People want to discuss the trial, fine… People want to discuss America’s invasion of Iraq, fine… People want to discuss the execution, fine… No problem… But pleeeease, I’m sick and tired of hearing all that crap about how Saddam was apparently a “Shaheed” or a “great charismatic” leader.
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Wasn’t Muqtada Al-Sadr brought to “power” among the Shi’ites when Saddam Hussein executed his father (after whom Sadr-City in Baghdad is named)?
Muqtada was a Saddam-follower back then, I think, and his father disowned him.
Muqtada is also not a cleric, he just gave himself the title.
His father was a real Shia cleric, a respectable man. But Muqtada, like Nasrallah, is merely a servant of the second god.
But pleeeease, I’m sick and tired of hearing all that crap about how Saddam was apparently a “Shaheed” or a “great charismatic” leader.
Brother, since everyone is entitled to his or her opinion, there will always be people to whom Saddam Hussein is a hero. You can’t do anything about that.
BK, the problem is that said opinion is extremely widespread. It is… a symptom, if you will, of the disease that plagues the Muslim world. Saddam was a monster, and yet the monster is accepted by Sunnis because he was a monster against against non-Sunnis…
Speaking of which, apparently Iran was insulted by the Palestinians’ mourning for Saddam, to the point of the Iranian govt. wanting to cancel the promised funding to the Hamas govt. Irony, it makes the world go round!
Article was on YNET, by the way
I am not the one who judges whether or not he is a ’shaheed’ and don’t recall ever saying or writing that… so next time you want to quote someone, do it right. As far as being a great, charismatic leader…Yes he was … as I mentioned, the point of my post was not to delve on how of a tyrant he was… He is one I would like to remember for the good, charismatic and dignified image he had…
“You can’t do anything about that.”
BK, I guess you’re right.
“He is one I would like to remember for the good, charismatic and dignified image he had…”
Iman, fair enough. As you please but how you can manage to do that is beyond me.
Wow! was it two posts ago I prophecised (sp?) that some Muslims would declare him a shaheed, “a great Arab leader, standing up to the West bla bla bla” …..
If SH was a “great Arab leader” ….then the Arab world is in big trouble.
And I’m still against death penalty, even for SH.
Ya and the Libyans are gonna build him a statue. That’s the “cherry on top”.
The real problem is that so many people in the Middle East think that a Great Leader is a good thing for a country to have. They actually _want_ to be ruled by a brutal dictator with secret police, republican guards, torture chambers, and disappearances.
There is some kind of communal masochism going on. Is it related to the way children are treated?
actually he was a secular leader and a very good one, improved the lot of most iraqis, ok he had wars (like me) , the problem facing most iraqia pre the war and sanctions was actually “obesity”
he abolished sharia law except in personal injury cases, promoted women to positions of high office , was very westernised,
ok he invadied kuwait which many thought part of iraq (a bit like our falklands thing)
ok i admit , i made a big mistake … sorry about the 100,000’s of dead .. whoops , hell shit happens
ps - guess i shouldnt have listened to allawi the bogus doctor and ex-saddam supporter , whose doctorate was bestowed on him by the baath party for servies rendered, i just found out his group were terrorists and blew up buses with iraqir schoolgirls in it and soem public theaters (pity saddam bungeld killing him)
pps - guess is houldnt have listened to chalabi the master forger as well
soooorryyy
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