Who’s This Filthy Retard?

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1. Freunde der offenen Gesellschaft » Über einen Kamm on December 20th, 2006 4:22 pm

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2. Andrew Brehm on December 20th, 2006 5:05 pm

   “This is what we should strive for instead.”

   A very wise and good teacher, that man.

   I feel that there are however two problems that Islam faces because both are widespread among Islam’s supposed adherents.

   The one problem is what that wise teacher referred to: a misunderstanding of where the battle is to be fought and against whom.

   But the bigger problem, from the perspective of non-Muslims, is something else.

   It is the pathetic ignorance displayd even by the student who the teacher managed to reach.

   The infidels do not in fact kill “thousands” of Muslims. In Iraq Muslim terrorists kill Muslim civilians, the Americans are barely involved. In Sudan Muslims kill Muslims in much higher numbers. In Palestine Muslims attack Jews and the Jews fight back, killing surprisingly few civilians considering where Israel’s targets are located (few terrorists possess the decency to hide their bomb factories outside civilian neighbourhoods).

   Muslims, those that follow what is now known as Islam rather than what I call “orthodox” or “Quranic” Islam, tell themselves that it is not other Muslims but infidels who kill; tell themselves that Jews fighting for their survival constitutes aggression; tell themselves that terrorists bombing mosques is in fact a desperate attempt to defend Islam against the American devil. They tell themselves that and find it a handy excuse to kill non-believers, preferably Jews.

   Quranic Islam does not, I believe, treat Christians and Jews as “non-believers”. Christians and Jews have been given, according to Quranic Islam, the prophecies and Christians and Jews believe in what they were given and the one true god. They are not unbelievers and war against them does not constitute war against infidels. It is a war against believers, a war against Allah’s followers.

   It is surprising, from my point of view, to see that many supposed Muslims actually believe that destroying a mosque in Iraq constitutes fighting infidels; that the destruction of Israel, in spite of Allah’s plans for the land, according to the Quran, constitutes an honorable task; that ignoring the murder of hundreds of thousands of Muslims in Sudan constitutes loyalty to one’s fellow Muslims; that taking control of the holy cities away from Muhammed’s family constitutes a purer interpretation of the religion.

   Perhaps a new word is needed to describe that form of “Islam”; those followers of a god who is not the god of the Quran, who would actually be a second god, if anything.

   Perhaps a distinction should be made not between Shi’ite and Sunni but between orthodox Islam and the belief in the second god.

3. halalhippie on December 20th, 2006 10:09 pm

   Just for the sake of comparision, what would happen to me, if I went on national Sudanese TV, saying that the killing of Muslims by Muslims in Darfur, was fine with me, and proof that Mohammed is a false Prophet ?

   Well, free speech….gotta let even a guy like that have his say.

4. Drima on December 21st, 2006 2:37 am

   Andrew, I pretty much agree. Islam’s biggest enemy is the growing bunch of ignorant Muslims themselves and NOT Jews or “CrUSAder Americans”.

   Halalhippie, I don’t know man but that guy was too much. for me to stomach. Shouldn’t he get locked up in jail or something. I mean this guy is basically supporting the 7/7 London bombings and he’s indirectly saying it’s okay to kill non-Muslims. Shouldn’t that be illegal? I really don’t understand how people like that monkey are allowed to walk free in society.

   Any Brits around here? Me still kinda shocked!

5. Roman Kalik on December 21st, 2006 4:45 am

   Drima, while agree with you that this guy is both dangerous and nauseating, I think he won’t be arrested unless he starts trying to convince others to start their own private Jihad. Not the internal kind either.

   I *do* think that he just earned himself a one-way ticket to MI’s shit list. (the internal security MI, can’t remember the number)

   And THAT means (I hope, for the sake of those poor Brits living anywhere near him) that he has several wiretaps, phonetaps, and the occasional watcher.

6. Drima on December 21st, 2006 5:15 am

   “Just for the sake of comparision, what would happen to me, if I went on national Sudanese TV, saying that the killing of Muslims by Muslims in Darfur, was fine with me, and proof that Mohammed is a false Prophet ?”

   Halalhippie, you’ll walk out of the TV station, get smacked and when they find out you’re Danish, they’ll chop off your head most probably

7. CommonSense on December 21st, 2006 2:03 pm

   Salaam Drima, the guy in that video is from a group in the UK called muhajiruun, they have made life difficult here for other muslims (and everyone else), he’s a nobody who gets a lot of headlines i have encountered him a few times. he’s usually ignored by most.

   Anyway, i have been reading your blog with interest keep it up.

8. halalhippie on December 23rd, 2006 7:39 pm

   CommonSense: “he’s usually ignored by most” …… reminds me, here in DK sometimes a cleric may hit the headlines with a real retarded statement, be it about female clerics, youth of today or something….. and most of us just plain ignore him. Like we did with the Pope’s famous speech, until Muslims made us pay attention.

   When it comes to Islam, however, “we” don’t know who to ignore and who to pay attention to. Maybe it’s a matter of habit, of knowing how to “filter”…

   We need a lot of sane Muslims to teach us.

9. The Usual Suspect on December 24th, 2006 3:04 pm

   Drima
   This is not that surprising since UK, France and Spain have actually granted asylum to Islamists who fled places like Egypt when the government cracked down on organisations like Gemaa Islamiyah and Ikhwan Muslimeen.
   I’ve read a book by a fellow who was in Tora Prisom with Ayman Zawahri following the arrest of hundreds of Islamists after the assasination of Sadat in Egypt. He actually calls on the UNHCR to advocate on behalf of Islamists to get European countries to grant them political asylum! He claims that he is speaking on behalf of Islamists who do not condone the killing of innocents but who, nevertheless, aspire to rid the ME of their governments and instil Sharia. He makes a distinction between Islamists who seek this end through dawa and Islamists who seek this end through militant means- Jihad.
   As far as I’m concerned there is only one kind of Islamist- the kind with a rigid, intolerant and unbending interpretation of Islam- the kind that is dangerous.
   Unbelievable, but true!

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