Darfur Children Dragged from Mothers & Shot

by Drima on November 19, 2006

I have no words… only shock and tears… absolute shock and flowing tears.

(hat tip: Nominally Challenged)

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Rantings of a Sandmonkey » Children dragged from their mothers & shot: 11.20.06 at 12:25 pm
The Sudanese Thinker » A Campaign is in the Works: 11.21.06 at 5:41 am

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1 The Raccoon 11.19.06 at 4:40 pm: Lovely people, the Janjaweed. They are in desperate need of a hemp tie. Should be part of their uniform. Same goes for whoemever funds, trains, protects and commands them.
2 tsedek 11.19.06 at 7:12 pm: OMG
3 kinzi 11.19.06 at 8:05 pm: We join you in this sorrow, Drima
4 K from Oslo 11.20.06 at 12:22 am: I read about this in the news yesterday and I haven’t been able to get it out of my mind. It’s just beyond disgusting.
5 The Libyan Observer 11.20.06 at 4:39 am: Yeah its disgusting. The Fact that you applauded the same tacticts to be used on Palistinian and Iraq kids, is as equally. God Help the Kids in Darfur, and God Help the Kids in the ME.
6 The Libyan Observer 11.20.06 at 4:40 am: But lets use your mindset. Lets say the J’s created a device to kill only Black males in Darfur, and not the civilians, would that be fine with you?
7 howie 11.20.06 at 4:48 am: Libyan Observer-

A device created just to kill black males in Darfur? Hmmm…what about a flying bug that injects Cycle Cell Enimia? Oh…how about a flying boom box that plays only American Country and Western Oldies…that would also be deadly to male Darfurians I would think?
8 Drima 11.20.06 at 5:47 am: Libyan Observer I tried to be polite with you but obviously it’s no use. How retarded can you be dumbass?

“The Fact that you applauded the same tacticts to be used on Palistinian and Iraq kids, is as equally.”

Oh really? Where? Show me where? Don’t put words in my mouth observer boy… bleh as if you actually can observe.

“Lets say the J’s created a device to kill only Black males in Darfur, and not the civilians, would that be fine with you?”

Hmmmm OMG well let me see. Crap, I’m thinking so damn hard about this. If the males are freaking Janjwaeed terrorists then they can rot in hell for all I care.

Listen up, next time you want to accuse me of your bullshit, make sure you quote something that I actually said NOT something you think I said. Got that?
9 Hipster 11.20.06 at 9:06 am: No comment!!
10 Andrew Brehm 11.20.06 at 12:00 pm: “The Fact that you applauded the same tacticts to be used on Palistinian and Iraq kids”

You can blame the terrorists for what they do to Iraqi kids.

You can blame the terrorists for abusing “Palestinian” kids as human shields (which is a war crime unless used against Jews, of course).

“a device to kill only Black males in Darfur, and not the civilians”

Black males are not civilians? That explains a lot. The usual “argument” for targeting Jewish civilians is that all Israelis are soldiers. I guess black males have now joined the rank of automatic targets?

Perhaps all the misery in the world would end if self-proclaimed Muslims stopped killing Jews and blacks?
11 Andrew Brehm 11.20.06 at 12:02 pm: “God Help the Kids in the ME”

Any idea why G-d doesn’t appear to be helping them? What have they done wrong?

But be that as it may, kids in Palestine don’t need G-d’s help. It would be sufficient if the terrorists stopped using them as human shields and if their parents would not teach them that killing Jews is G-d’s will. But are their lives valuable enough to justify such a dramatic change?

I think so. But what about you?
12 tommy 11.20.06 at 7:11 pm: They need a real force in there, not the ineffectual AU or the UN. They need somebody prepared to mercilessly mow down these thuggish horsemen from helicopter gunships. To chase and harry them across the countryside. To not give them a moment of peace. You won’t get that kind of hardcore response from the UN or the AU but that is what is required.
13 The Raccoon 11.20.06 at 7:37 pm: Tommy - and then what? This is tribes, mate. Tribal mentality enables such things to exist. As long as there is tribal mentality, there will be such atrocities.

You simply can’t change such a situation by massive force - you can only stall it, at an astronomic cost. This is not Nazi Germany, with a modern populace swayed by a charismatic psychopath… this is a society of unrelated pieces eating itself up. I see the same thing in Afghanistan, in PA, in Iraq, in Somalia. An excellent [paraphrased] quote from Black Hawk Down (brilliant book, meticulously researched) - everybody in Mogadishu wants peace… but only if their tribe wins.

Nothing less than a total paradigm shift can cure this. And bringing that paradigm shift through force of arms means a bloodbath like in times of Alexander. Putting cities to the sword. Slaughtering millions of civilians. Destroying everything so that it can be rebuilt - total obliteration of a society.

Not something that is feasible in our times. And ethically, it’s extremely suspect.
14 Roman Kalik 11.20.06 at 9:47 pm: I agree, this is down to tribal mentality, but while I also agree that tribal mentality cannot be defeated by force without *total* use of force, I also do not think that its near-total lack is helping matters.

Because, at the end of the day, those who died are the future. The hope of change. Show them the children that there is another path, but don’t expect the past to let them follow it if you are unwilling to protect them. By lethal force if need be, and the need is there.
15 girl4cairo 11.20.06 at 11:45 pm: That’s so sad!
16 Kurt 11.21.06 at 12:58 am: Hey, Drima! First time poster, long time reader as they say.

I’ve already posted about this at Sandmonkey’s, but let me ask; is there anything American civilians could do to help? Are there any charities or relief agencies we could donate to? I feel like I should do *something*, but I have no idea what.

Anyway, I’d say you have my prayers, but I’m an atheist. So may Providence be with you and good fortune smile upon Sudan and her people.
17 Jina 11.21.06 at 5:59 am: Kurt,
I don’t think giving money can help that much. Best thing to do is for you to spread the news around blogs hopping that the major news media will pick up the story. To tell you the truth the bloggers are next to nothing if the main stream media don’t cover this story.
18 Kurt 11.21.06 at 6:34 am: That’s what I was afraid of. It just makes me feel so damn impotent to see these things going on and not being able to *act*.

I actually went to enlist in the Marine Corps in 2002 on my 18th birthday, but I was unfit for service due to medical reasons (namely fibromyalgia, chronic pain, prone to seizures, etc.). I just wish I could physically *do* something.
19 The Raccoon 11.21.06 at 11:30 am: Kurt - you can’t do anything in the immediate time. But you can spread awareness, kick people awake, work to bring about the paradigm shift.

Remind the fat Westerners that most of the world is in dire straits. Remind them that Civilization has not yet won - far from it.
Spread understanding of democracy and human rights in places these don’t exist.

Siddhartha Guatama saved millions of lives merely by showing people that they are people.