American Plan to Divide Sudan & Invade Egypt by 2015

by Drima on October 18, 2006

This is what the headline of this Arabic article says. What I found weird is that it heavily quotes an article entitled “The Goals of the American Adminstration in the Middle East” written by some military analyst called Joseph Alsob in the French newspaper called Lomond (did I spell it right?). Joseph says that there is a secret agreement between the Darfur rebels, American intelligence and the Israeli Mossad. According to him, there’s a plan to invade Sudan under the pretext of what’s happening in Darfur which he says will be the excuse this time instead of WMDs. He says after the invasion takes place, the United States will bring down the Khartoum government and replace it with a friendlier one. Following that, the US is supposed to start sucking oil and stealing uranium but wait there’s more. The US will also divert some of the Nile’s water to Israel using high capacity pipes!  Joseph then goes to conclude that Sudan’s invasion will be the first step towards colonizing Egypt and here’s the best part. The pretext of invading Egypt will be liberating the oppressed Coptic Christians! I’m telling you people this article is amazing. You see this is exactly why Israel gave back the whole of gigantic Sinai to Egypt. ;)

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1 A 10.18.06 at 10:56 am

not to mention that the US gives quite a bit of aid to egypt, i believe for their military budget, as it does for israel. usually you don’t build up your enemies military before attacking them, though i suppose logic goes out the window when composing conspiracy theories.

2 Drima 10.18.06 at 11:37 am

Good point A!

The sad part is that I believe 90% of the people who will read this article will consume its dose of paranoia as fact without even questioning it.

3 Nominally Challenged 10.18.06 at 11:44 am

Hey Drima,

If the French newspaper that the article is referring to is “Le Monde”, then it is a fairly respectable paper. I wonder whether the article was indeed published there, and if so, what it actually said …

For what it’s worth, the syndicated journalist Joseph Alsop died in 1989, so his views, to the extent to which they might be relevant, must be considered somewhat out of date … (google his name for that info). I think that you can safely assume, given this, that it is unlikely that he held any opinion whatsoever about Darfur specifically.

You can draw your own conclusions about the reliability of the Arabic article from that, if you want :)

4 The Raccoon 10.18.06 at 12:25 pm

NC - interesting.

On a related issue, there is a trial going on in France at the moment regarding the Al-Dura affair. France2’s cover of a staged event that was taken as the icon of global Jihad has been directly responsible for thousands of deaths… should the trial succeed, it will be a major blow for the aforementioned Global Jihad, and hopefully set a precendent in making journalists responsible for their crimes.

I hope Enderlin and Chabot wil be found guilty, forced to give all their money to terror victims (bankruping France2), and then have a Star of David tattooed on their chest and set loose naked in Gaza.

5 Hal 10.18.06 at 12:44 pm

Well…..this is probably not the comment you would expect me to leave….but you asked if you spelt it right! So:

No, I’m sorry, but you didn’t! It’s Le Monde. Only someone as anally retentive as I am would point that out. :)

Now, with regards to the POINT of your post, I love the sarcasm! And isn’t it great to know that not only Arabs are great at weaving conspiracy theories? ;)

6 Drima 10.18.06 at 12:46 pm

NC, now that’s damn interesting. The Arabic article I linked to is published on the Sudanese news website Al-Mashaheer and they’re reporting it via what was published in the Egyptian newspaper al-Wafd… This is seriously funny because based on what you’re saying the article is then simply a complete lie given the fact that they heavily quote Joseph’s analysis about Darfur. According to you the guy is already dead.

I forgot to mention this but the article also talks about similar things said by some guy called Doa Ceasar in his article in some French newspaper called Libraseon.

7 Drima 10.18.06 at 12:52 pm

Hal, hehehe thanks for the little spelling lesson. What about the other French newspaper called Libraseon or something. Did I spell that wrongly too?? :)

8 schoenerleben 10.18.06 at 2:38 pm

Ya man :) It’s “Liberation”… As for conspyracy theories, I think especially people with some minority complex like to build them, probably in order to feed that feeling. Note that I don’t want to offend any culture or something as those conspiracies appear in any culture and any country, but they always seem to blame only the powerful.

9 drew.catt 10.18.06 at 3:49 pm

Drima, don’t you know that the dead tell no lies…. so it MUST all be TRUE.

10 Drima 10.18.06 at 4:20 pm

Drew.catt, LOL. But man I’m serious. This article is really fishy. It must be exposed. Somebody here is lying and we must find out who.

Is it the French, the Egyptians or us the Sudanese??

11 Egypeter 10.18.06 at 5:30 pm

Well, this is fascinating!

Let’s hope news of America’s future invasion of Egypt doesn’t reach the Egyptians…lol.

If a retarded conspiracy theory like this gains steam who do you think is gonna pay the price in Egypt…yeah, you guessed it, the Christians. There are already many in Egypt who claim that the Copts want the U.S. to invade…that may be how this bull shit started.

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve argued with pea-brains on the internet that America is not invading Egypt…unless, of course, the vile Ikhwan take power…hell, then I’ll even sign up and join the invading force :)

The first commenter made perfect sense. Why on God’s green earth would the U.S. build up Egypt’s millitary with all kinds of equipment, continue giving them aid and even endorsing Gamal Muburak’s wish to provide civillian nuclear energy…and THEN INVADE THE COUNTRY?????

And who exactly would believe that it was all to free the 12 million Copts in Egypt when the current U.S. administration doesn’t give a shit about the Chrisitans of Egypt?

One would really have to be a dumb-f**k to believe any of this nonsense but then again I’ve heard crazier Arab conspiracy theories before…

12 Drima 10.18.06 at 6:23 pm

“but then again I’ve heard crazier Arab conspiracy theories before…”

Crazier??!!!! Dude you’ve got to be kidding me coz this is by far the CRAZIEST I’ve ever heard!!

There’s more outrageous shit in it that I can traslate. You don’t even wanna know how pathetically funny it is man.

13 ratedrsuperstar 10.19.06 at 1:15 am

Drima:
Seriously though why would the United States want Egypt, Sudan or for that matter any chunk of the Arab World?

Oil? If we wanted it bad enough we’d just nuke the countries then wait for the radiation to clear to start drilling

promote democracy? Highly effective in Iraq thus far

end terrorism? see above

Help protect Israel? Do they have us under some magic spell lol..hypnotized by the zionists we are

Seriously the Arab world needs to realize that they are far less important than they want to believe. Maybe then they can work toward a better future .

_p.s. if I was the American Government, I’d conquer Switzerland with its vast banking and money . Our government needs it

14 Drima 10.19.06 at 6:26 am

ratedrsuperstar, the current ruling NCP said it would love to improve Sudan’s relation with America… If America really wanted the oil so badly it would just have to patch things up with Sudan, lift the sanctions and send in Chevron to start sucking… But wait that’s really really difficult. It would just be much easier for America to invade Sudan and bomb it into pieces followed by an invasion of Egypt.

You know what’s so depressing about all of this? People actually BELIEVE this stuff…

15 Aimster 10.19.06 at 6:20 pm

Well babe, this so called Doa Ceasar doesn’t exist.

I never knew there were such blatant fabrications published. I gues sthey figure people who can read Arabic are highly unlikely to read French newspapers as well.

did you know DOA actually stands for dead or alive? hahah random info

16 ratedrsuperstar 10.19.06 at 7:35 pm

Drima:
I don’t know if you are familiar with the work of Johnathon swift (Gulliver’s travels was his most famous work). He wrote a short essay called a modest proposal in which he proposed that the children of the poor should be eaten as a way to stem the problem of hunger and poverty. It was a satirical piece that was not meant to be taken seriously but many people at the time thought he was serious. I suspect you can make up and crazy theory about America wanting to conquer the world and many people in the middle East would believe it. It makes me think satire is a sign of a healthy society. Just a thought

17 Amru 10.19.06 at 9:26 pm

Don’t you think it is a bit ludicrous to compare the military support the US provides Israel to that it provides Egypt with… As if all of you here are purposely disconnected from reality… many American fighter jets were tested by the Israel Airforce on the Arabs, remember the elimination of the Egyptian Airforce on the ground…

So please spare us the b.s

Israel is a nation created on the land, blood and backs of others… so stop trying to justify your existence based on the extermination of others.

You can not oppress forever…

FREEDOM will come to Palestine…

18 schoenerleben 10.19.06 at 11:41 pm

Amru, no country in the world exists which has been created without blood. Each single nation has it’s crimes, the difference is only the time distance when those took place.
I don’t want to justify anything or anybody. But IMO only thinking about the past and the suffering of Palestine will lead nowhere but to revenge.
Freedom with peace is better than freedom alone.

19 Sam 10.20.06 at 4:18 am

I love reading conspiracies…that’s as long as they remain conspiracies. This one cracks me up though…but then I choke thinking about how the claims back each other up and seems so realistic, but then again, that’s what conspiracy theorists try to do best…make their claims look realistic.

20 drew.catt 10.20.06 at 4:08 pm

ratedrsuperstar: I suspect you can make up and crazy theory about America wanting to conquer the world and many people in the middle East would believe it. It makes me think satire is a sign of a healthy society. Just a thought

There’s nothing wrong with satire. The problem here is that either side could do it, and it be taken for fact when it isn’t. Believing this kind of stuff is not limited to those in the Middle East.

Go to some parts of the US and tell people that the Iranians are planning to invade America next week, and you’d be guaranteed to net a few beleivers.

Heck, go to France now and tell some of the ‘French’ that their Muslim population is plotting with Turkey, Algeria and Angola to over-run and overthrow the French government (hey its likely…), and I’m sure you’d find some takers.

21 Bec 10.21.06 at 1:06 am

I don’t understand how they think the U.S. could plan that far ahead. Do they think the Republicans and the Democrats are in sync? We can’t seem to agree on anything, let alone invading Egypt in 2015.

22 Hipster 10.30.06 at 9:49 am

“Help protect Israel? Do they have us under some magic spell lol..hypnotized by the zionists we are”

Ratedsuperstar, from what I heard, the congress mainly consists of Jews, thus, justfiying the above.

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24 chibaa 11.08.07 at 12:51 pm

When there was theory about iraqi invasion in the eighties everyone said thats impossible,America is giving Saddam all the weapons,how could be that possible.
In the case of Sudan, its even more clear, they are trying to have a foot in Darfur, but hopefully the Sudan state is building more and more his mlitary capbility every day

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